CITIZEN ALERT v3.292
PROP 8
Well with CITIZEN ALERT in its 3rd year a slower year by far for posts as I have been extremely busy, I just wanted to take this time to say, yea, Obama won! Never my first choice for President, but I'm glad he has Biden on board with him and he truly has a gift for pumping people up and inspiring people to change things so I am 100% behind him. And the moment I see him screw up I will be the first to throw the hammer down.
Things are a little crazy in California because of Prop 8 passing. When are people going to recognize that California is one giant RED STATE in disguise. So, here's CITIZEN ALERT's take on all the hoo ha.
First off, I voted No on PROP 8. Second off, I really hate having to vote either way cause I don't like either side's position entirely. I think gay people MUST enjoy the same rights and privileges allotted to everyone by the U.S. Constitution, period. Having said that, I am a HUGE, and I mean HUUUGE, believer in separation of Church and State. HUGE!! And this is where the Prop 8 vote gets messy for me.
California has domestic partnerships (DP) that afford rights to same sex couples like a married heterosexual couple would have although just by the fact that they can list these rights on a page makes me think they forgot a few. The problem with people saying that "gays don't need marriage they have domestic partnerships" is like saying 1) they don't need my drinking fountain they have their own and 2) the Federal Government doesn't recognize the DP. If you're married in California, you're married everywhere you go, not so with a DP. That's not equal guys.
For people, like my bass player, Corey, who think the kids are going to get picked on at school because their parents are gay and we have to "save" the children, well for one, my parents were quite heterosexual Southern Baptists and I don't think anyone in history was more picked on in school than me, so that argument doesn't work. Not to mention the fact that even if you outlaw gay marriage, that doesn't stop them from having kids, but when they split up just like heterosexual couples do, then you've created a giant mess of legal problems and serious strife for the kids.
So, now for the other side. The homosexual community that insists on being "married". WHY?!!!!!!!!!!! REALLY!!?!?!? WHY!?!?!?!!?!? You know I get it as it stands now. Separate but equal, I get it, but seriously WHY?!! The term marriage is a religious term. It has biblical roots. Why would you insist on being "recognized" by a sect of society using their terminology that really really hates you? It's like gay people marching into a church and insisting that the church rewrite the Bible so that it says being gay is okay! They have a right to be idiots; they're not changing anything so why try? It makes it seem like instead of standing up for your rights you are attacking religion.
Here's the way it SHOULD be and I've been saying this for years. EVERY COUPLE should be required to have a civil union recognized by the Federal government. When you go down to City Hall you get a Civil Union license NOT a marriage license. Our government blurred the line between church and state when they put the word MARRIAGE on a government document. Now after you get your civil union license, if you want to get married too, then yea!! I'm thrilled, go do it, go to your church and get married, I'll come and throw rice but the Federal Government SHOULD NOT CARE. It should only recognize civil unions for heterosexuals AND homosexuals. THAT IS EQUAL.
Now, is the federal government going to yank the word marriage off the document? NO! So, then we have to unfortunately fight for homosexuals to be "married". Makes no sense to me, but I will support it because those same rights that married heterosexuals have that are recognized in EVERY state must be the same for EVERY AMERICAN. Doesn't matter that the majority of people voted to give certain Americans more civil rights than other Americans, that's why we have courts to interpret these laws and overturn the ones that are meant to smash into a million pieces everything America is supposed to stand for.
Things are a little crazy in California because of Prop 8 passing. When are people going to recognize that California is one giant RED STATE in disguise. So, here's CITIZEN ALERT's take on all the hoo ha.
First off, I voted No on PROP 8. Second off, I really hate having to vote either way cause I don't like either side's position entirely. I think gay people MUST enjoy the same rights and privileges allotted to everyone by the U.S. Constitution, period. Having said that, I am a HUGE, and I mean HUUUGE, believer in separation of Church and State. HUGE!! And this is where the Prop 8 vote gets messy for me.
California has domestic partnerships (DP) that afford rights to same sex couples like a married heterosexual couple would have although just by the fact that they can list these rights on a page makes me think they forgot a few. The problem with people saying that "gays don't need marriage they have domestic partnerships" is like saying 1) they don't need my drinking fountain they have their own and 2) the Federal Government doesn't recognize the DP. If you're married in California, you're married everywhere you go, not so with a DP. That's not equal guys.
For people, like my bass player, Corey, who think the kids are going to get picked on at school because their parents are gay and we have to "save" the children, well for one, my parents were quite heterosexual Southern Baptists and I don't think anyone in history was more picked on in school than me, so that argument doesn't work. Not to mention the fact that even if you outlaw gay marriage, that doesn't stop them from having kids, but when they split up just like heterosexual couples do, then you've created a giant mess of legal problems and serious strife for the kids.
So, now for the other side. The homosexual community that insists on being "married". WHY?!!!!!!!!!!! REALLY!!?!?!? WHY!?!?!?!!?!? You know I get it as it stands now. Separate but equal, I get it, but seriously WHY?!! The term marriage is a religious term. It has biblical roots. Why would you insist on being "recognized" by a sect of society using their terminology that really really hates you? It's like gay people marching into a church and insisting that the church rewrite the Bible so that it says being gay is okay! They have a right to be idiots; they're not changing anything so why try? It makes it seem like instead of standing up for your rights you are attacking religion.
Here's the way it SHOULD be and I've been saying this for years. EVERY COUPLE should be required to have a civil union recognized by the Federal government. When you go down to City Hall you get a Civil Union license NOT a marriage license. Our government blurred the line between church and state when they put the word MARRIAGE on a government document. Now after you get your civil union license, if you want to get married too, then yea!! I'm thrilled, go do it, go to your church and get married, I'll come and throw rice but the Federal Government SHOULD NOT CARE. It should only recognize civil unions for heterosexuals AND homosexuals. THAT IS EQUAL.
Now, is the federal government going to yank the word marriage off the document? NO! So, then we have to unfortunately fight for homosexuals to be "married". Makes no sense to me, but I will support it because those same rights that married heterosexuals have that are recognized in EVERY state must be the same for EVERY AMERICAN. Doesn't matter that the majority of people voted to give certain Americans more civil rights than other Americans, that's why we have courts to interpret these laws and overturn the ones that are meant to smash into a million pieces everything America is supposed to stand for.
Labels: Gay rights, Prop 8
posted by Bobot Adrenaline at 4:22 PM
1 Comments:
I agree with your stand on civil unions; I think taking the religious institution of marriage out of civil law is the sensible, fair way to do it. Civil contracts for everyone, personal marriages as private religious ceremonies conducted outside civil law.
But as to your question, WHY do gays and lesbians want to get married?
Well... to have and to hold, from the chosen day onward, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.
Why does anybody want to get married?
My wife and I moved to Canada because we were tired of waiting for the US to recognize that there are universal human emotions. After nine years together in which our state amended its constitution to deny us any recognition, it is so blessedly ... normal to be recognized as just another married couple.
If you are het yourself, you probably do not realize how oppressive it is to be denied basic human rights because of something you cannot help. What if the law said brown-haired people couldn't marry other brown-haired people?
Thanks for voting against that idiotic mess. Here's hoping the CA Supreme Court rules against it.
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